More Proof Google Loves DigitalPoint.com
A little while ago I remember Patrick from Blogstorm saying how he thought that one of his pages went supplemental because it was linking to a page on DigitalPoint.com. I figured it was probably just a coincidence – sites like Search Engine Roundtable link to the forums all the time, these sites would not rank at all if this were true.
However some new evidence has just come to the surface which further proves that linking to DigitalPoint.com could indeed be harmful. Now this evidence is not damming and it could easily be a coincidence, but it definitely made me wonder.
Here are the new PR scores for each of the SEO tool reviews on this site:
- Marketleap Link Popularity Checker – PR4
- SEOmoz Page Strength Tool – PR4
- SEO Book Keyword Suggestion Tool – PR4
- XML Sitemaps Sitemap Generator – PR4
- Joost De Valk Nofollow Display – PR4
- Digital Point Geotargeting Tool – PR0
- Dead Links Broken Link Checker – PR4
- WebConfs HTTP Header Checker – PR4
Can you spot the odd one out? What do you think? Is this just a coincidence? Or has Google well and truly deemed DigitalPoint.com a bad neighborhood that should not be linked to?
Posted in Search Engine News By David Eaves a UK search engine optimisation specialist.
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August 2nd, 2008 92 Comments
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August 2nd, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Can You double check this?
Digital Point Geotargeting Tool – PR0
its PR6
August 2nd, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Hi Sunil, it is the PR score of my review that I am talking about.
August 2nd, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Oh Sorry,
I took it wrong
August 2nd, 2008 at 4:14 pm
This might explain why my blog went to PR0 from PR4 a few days after I posted two articles linking to digital point. One about the black hat guy who was referrer spaming DP members and the other about how Shoemoney’s lack of control got me banned at DP for questioning Shoemoney’sethics (btw, yes, he is a mod at DP even though all he does is go in and clean up threads about him).
I certainly won’t be linking to DP anymore.
I do believe the issue is with the DP co-op which is technically a linking scheme. What I don’t understand is why does DP still have PR if they admittedly started the co-op ??
btw, nice blog. You have a new RSS subscriber.
August 2nd, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Hi Dave, if you add nofollow to the links you should be O.K.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:03 am
This is interesting, and certainly there has been much debate about this. However, I believe Google would have stripped the PR of the GEO Tool page if it indeed was untrusted – just as the co-op advertising page has PR 0.
I know a few on DP have formed their opinions based on DP’s forum, not their TLD. Just to be clear, forums.digitalpoint.com and digitalpoint.com are treated as two seaparate sites.
Great post and interesting info. Thanks for sharing!
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:33 am
Yeah.., Digital Point really Rocks!!
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:40 pm
But what about links coming from DP to our sites? They are harmful too?
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:43 pm
I think having backlinks from the forum is a good thing because you can get your site indexed real fast!
August 10th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
I think links from dp forums to you aren’t a big issue, I’ve got about 4,000 and their doing my site just fine.
August 18th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
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September 16th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Interesting observation Dave.
I have confusing result. One of my blog on a penalized directory has DP on its blogrol -and it surely is penalized.
But my amateurish SEO blog (searchenginematrix (dot) org ) also has it on its blogrol along with host of others. It seems doing quite well – not penalized/not stripped of PR.
September 27th, 2008 at 9:13 am
Hi Dave,
But how and why can google descriminate 1 specific site? And worst than that how can they then penalize all the other sites that use that link?
Im still new in this SEO stuff but I do want to get my PR up.
Looking forward to see your reply.
Best regards,
Tuk
October 8th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Hi Tuk, I would imagine that the coop advertising network that they run may have had something to do with it, if they are in fact penalising sites that link to digitalpoint.com.
October 9th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
I’m not really sure Google would give any true love for it. Like, it may reciprocate some PR, but what I’m looking for is SE traffic. Will it come back with that?
October 13th, 2008 at 12:47 am
Oh yeah, i have my own experience with DP too.. i have a niche sites with really fresh content then i create a sig in my dp account and in less than 5 hours my site is listed in Google, pretty amazed with the result
October 17th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
I did not know Links coming from DP forum is harmful.
October 22nd, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Hi david,
Thanks for this information. really i knew so far that Google loves DP and I use this forum most of the time for promoting my sites. I was totally unaware of this. I will remember your advise. can you tell me that yahoo answer is efective or not for getting traffic?
Thanks
October 23rd, 2008 at 7:21 am
Links from DP forum is harmful? My god! Thanks for this amazing informations.
October 24th, 2008 at 7:57 am
Nice to have this information.
October 25th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
There is so much controversial around what links. It does not make sense that DP links could have a negative impact on a site as they are contextually correct for our industry. Being new to the SEO industry all the conflicting information makes a simple process so much more complicated. I will keep an eye on my links and take what you have said into consideration.
October 28th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Hola Lancashire.
just found your blog lastnight via cornwallseo and been enjoying it muchos.
Hmm. felt compelled to reply to this, we have an SEO resources page with our fave blogs and forums etc on it, including DP and it’s always been greyed out since I first put the content in. although i dont believe a word of it to be fair.
toolbar tells lies.
do i need to use the link condom on DP then?
October 30th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Hi Dave, if you add nofollow to the links you should be O.K.
November 6th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
It’s pretty cool the evidence has just come to the surface which further proves that linking to DigitalPoint.com could indeed be very harmful.
November 11th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
the link to the DP has to be taken care in the spam protection part of SEO
November 14th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
i can see digital point has pretty good content resources about their product so i guess it’s just fair google loved to index it.
November 21st, 2008 at 1:34 pm
That’s very true.
When you ask a general query in digital point forum. You can get response in less than 5 mins but if you ask the same query in other forums you might not get a response in the same time.
Google crawls it daily I think..
So it is a favorite one of google.
December 4th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
i like there too, its very helpful for noob like me to search free script, free tips, etc.
December 9th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Hi,I really happy to work on SEO after learning these.Now i think having backlinks from the forum is a good thing because than only you can indexed your site very fast.
December 11th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Its a total coincidence.
December 13th, 2008 at 12:22 am
Some web sites or forum sites provides new websites’ quickly to be indexed by Google but in a long term,these links may be harmful.
In fact,I think Google will be the same with Altavista in a short time. In 1998 Altavista was the important search engine,there was no GOOGLE.
Google’s search results are very bad.Althought there is no word in content of a web site,this web site can be in the first page og Google with the targeted word,because of Google’s link populerity politicas.
December 15th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Hi Dave
You might want to check the link again- it is PR4.
December 22nd, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Thank you for the post, this is very good post but i think forum back link are not permanent link.
December 25th, 2008 at 11:09 am
hmmm, that is interesting thing…but now pr is 4..so i think,that your assumption isn’t complitely true..
chronis, forum back links are permanent links, that is true )
December 27th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
i hate Digital point they are gods there !”
December 29th, 2008 at 8:21 am
That place is definitely wacked
December 29th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Hi David,
I am still not sure from your point of view but thanks indeed for the information as I could be more careful now.
With Regards
Subodh
December 30th, 2008 at 10:59 am
Great post. Some excellent ideas that we could start working with to make our corp blog community-friendly.
January 8th, 2009 at 6:27 am
I am using some other tools for seo.Those are very good.Let me try these tools.Anyways thanks for your information.
January 10th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Digital Point can be a good thing as it is for many. I think it is just a coincidence that that happened or maybe the people at DP are out to get certain individuals.
Erik
http://www.freefor15.com
January 13th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
I am really wondering their coincidence after viewed your blog. Its really interesting that google loves digitalpoint.com.You proved it.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Good information. i did not know that before about DP forum. all the links at DP forum are no follow, so obviously, it wont help in SE ranking .
January 16th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Better to steer clear of digitalpoint.com. There are other ways to improve your search engine ranking
Burr Ridge Web Design
January 17th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Good Collection. I like digital point always
January 21st, 2009 at 1:57 pm
At least you figured it was probably just a coincidence,you have a very nice blog. Thank you for the effort,keep up the good work.
-ricka-
January 24th, 2009 at 3:10 am
Hmmmm…. My guess is its just one of those coincedences in life. Everyone loves DP, how could google not?
January 26th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
I agree, DP links can’t harm you. Max is that google doesn’t consider them, but certainly they can’t penalize you for having them.
February 1st, 2009 at 8:44 pm
I am really confuse with all said above, actually is it or is it not danger to linking to DP.COM? If Google loves the site why it will be harming our sites if linking to it?
February 10th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Google loves DP and rewards you with links from it to your site. It assists fast indexing to get links from that forum. There woiuld be a logical explanation for your reviews PRzero that is totally unrelated.
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:14 pm
This is interesting, and certainly there has been much debate about this. However, I believe Google would have stripped the PR of the GEO Tool page if it indeed was untrusted – just as the co-op advertising page has PR 0.
March 16th, 2009 at 9:52 am
That really is interesting about Digitalpoint.com, thanks for the info!
March 17th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Ah if there was such a thing that a link from a website can harm the website being linked I believe SEO link building would be a different game. hehe
Target ur competition and ur done
March 17th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Digitalpoint Really Nice market place and PR7 dofollow forum
March 20th, 2009 at 9:58 am
I am a little weary of digital point, I joined a year ago, and there has been that much debate about it i have just stop using it. Yes it did have some good links then, but i think that like ‘Search Engine Optimization Service’ Google would have completely stripped the PR to 0.
March 21st, 2009 at 10:09 pm
wow…people got worried back there about links from DP. The post was about linking to the forum!! Linking to maybe not wise, links from…google will not give a jot (or any love).
April 6th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
I think that DP is an excellent site. We receive quite a bit of traffic from their site and our number of backlinks have increased dramtically.
Good topical post by the way
April 12th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
I belive that google has lowered DP’s page rank
April 14th, 2009 at 11:31 am
i am 3 years digitalpoint user, Great Marketplace for buyers and sellers
April 14th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Very good & great info
Thank you
April 17th, 2009 at 2:57 am
It’s showing here
Digital Point Geotargeting Tool – PR0
has PR6.
April 17th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Great information.
So linking TO dp might be harmful, backlinks from dp signatures aren’t harmful.
Thanks a lot!
April 27th, 2009 at 7:38 am
great post sir..
thanks for sharing. really helped a lot here.
regards,
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UGGS
May 1st, 2009 at 10:55 am
You are correct dear because digital point forum has its importance as per google point of view.
May 1st, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Thank you for this informative read, I really appreciate sharing this great post. Keep up your work.
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:37 am
DP is a good market place for Serious Webmasters and entrepreneurs
May 5th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Hi this is nice information for any visitors who wants to know seo tools.thanks…
Amit
Our IT Vision
May 9th, 2009 at 7:04 am
Digital point is really good.I too like it.
May 12th, 2009 at 8:56 am
That is a scary thought since I have a portion of my site explaining on how to market and have linked to dp I don’t know though I have not noticed any changes so who know I sure hope it doesn’t hurt to link to dp.
May 13th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
I agree that Digital Point is really useful, as useful as iwebtools.
May 20th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
like ezinearticles, so if we have a link there, it will also be seen by these bots. So making a visibility make us popular in some extent. Am I right?
May 21st, 2009 at 2:01 am
Sorry for leaving two comments, but I forgot to tell you thank you for the links. I did not know about the checkers and they will really help seo my site it is very much appreciated!!
May 22nd, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Digital Point links are a sure thing in Google.
It’s also a great website for anything online marketing, seo, web-related. The Best!
May 26th, 2009 at 1:58 am
it’s a changing thing actually. we never catch up with google’s way of calculating…
May 26th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
I’ve been a poster on DP Forums and never noticed any bad effect from using my company’s website Myndconsulting.com on my forum account’s signature.
DP Forums PR is 6 and backlinks from them helps our website’s PR IMO.
May 30th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
never catch up with google’s way
May 30th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
will really help seo my site
May 30th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
ezinearticles, so if we have a link there, it will also be seen by these bots. So making
May 31st, 2009 at 2:54 pm
I have 2 Years experience with digitalpoint Link Sales Sections, Very Nice Market Place!
June 12th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
meh, i don’t think google likes them anymore, they are banned from google adsense
June 14th, 2009 at 3:27 am
I’m a digitalpoint member also, I think that forum is great market place. I’ve also found there about this automated customer support which is sufaq and there’s really great softwares seller there.
June 14th, 2009 at 3:29 am
and I think they got it wrong about digitalpoint
June 23rd, 2009 at 11:35 am
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July 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
I am a digital-point member since June 2006. I found the site to be very useful at the beginning, right now there are to many fraudsters trade in the site. I till do trade in the site but I am now very cautious who I made a deal with. I have been cheated twice there by fraudsters.
August 1st, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Good find there. With the authority status and site links in google, digitalpoint should look and be regarded as a good neighbor and site to be linked.
Then why does google devalue the posts that link to digitalpoint? Can you just justify the thing if possible?
November 6th, 2009 at 6:16 am
I do believe the issue is with the DP co-op which is technically a linking scheme. What I don’t understand is why does DP still have PR if they admittedly started the co-op ??
December 15th, 2009 at 7:01 am
Google loves DP because it is an active forum, new posts every 30 minutes, traffic is very high and has plenty of organic backlinks from recommendations and review from other DP members.
I have learned a lot from DP, and make it to the point to check the forum everyday.
December 17th, 2009 at 8:39 am
That’s a very interesting point. I always thought digital point was a renown forum but I guess I was mistaken
January 4th, 2010 at 12:04 am
i can see digital point has pretty good content resources about their product so i guess it’s just fair google loved to index it.
January 5th, 2010 at 10:35 am
Hi .. I always thought digital point was a renown forum but I guess I was mistaken
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January 9th, 2010 at 11:00 am
Digitalpoint is a Excellent High traffic Online Marketplace. i have account with digitalpoint 3 years. most of my sites backlinks comming from DP Signatures. really google love this dofollow signature link.
Excellent Post, keep it up.
Jeniffer
January 29th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Digital point is really a good site and i have an account their and I put my website link its profile and I’m getting link back from that….I don’t think its harmful
August 13th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Digital point is really a good site and i have an account their and I put my website link its profile and I’m getting link back from that….I don’t think its harmful